Career Warrior Podcast #284) Top 3 MISTAKES Job Seekers Are Making Today

Episode Transcript

Chris Villanueva 0:04
Welcome to the let’s see grandma career warrior podcast.

And welcome to the let’s see grandma career warrior podcast where our goal is not only to help you land your dream job, but to help you live your best life. I am Chris Villanueva the host of let’s eat grandma, the world’s best resume writing service as seen on the balance careers. Today, as in 112 23, we have brought an amazing episode for you, we’re going to cover the top three mistakes jobseekers are making today. And listen, I know there’s a lot of stuff out there posted online, like, oh, gosh, you have to have your resume get past the ATS. You have to get clarity in your career mistakes left and right that people are posting online about but I’m gonna get down and dirty and give you what I think are going to be the top three, with the help of my friend Dr. Benjamin Ritter. Dr. Ben Ritter is a leadership and empowerment coach with an incredible amount of speaking experience under his belt, including a TEDx talk on finding purpose at work. He’s national speaker, podcaster, author, consultant, mentor, teacher, and he’s passionate about guiding others in finding creating and sustaining a career that they love. told Ben, I wanted to have a lot of fun in this episode. So here we are in Austin, Texas, downtown in person doing this episode, and we’re going to have a lot of fun during this episode here. Before I launch into it, I humbly ask you to look at the description of this podcast episode. And what I’ve done is I’ve included both the LinkedIn URLs of Dr. Ben Ritter and myself, and go ahead and hop on over to LinkedIn and send us both a connection request letting us know that you’re a subscriber who is listening to this episode. And I would love to connect with you. I always say yes to my fellow career warriors. So without further ado, this is episode 284 of the career warrior podcast. Ben, welcome to the show.

Benjamin Ritter 2:04
I’m happy to be here. And if anyone is connected with me on LinkedIn, please tell me a joke maybe or a riddle. Hmm, like, let’s have some fun with it. But promise there’s going to be a nice little gift if you do do that. I have a little little secret surprise for anyone that does connect and send me a riddle.

Chris Villanueva 2:24
I like the idea. It’s definitely the most unconventional LinkedIn personalized request I can imagine is throwing a riddle or a joke in there. But we he’s explicitly asking for it. So please do

Benjamin Ritter 2:35
and bonus points if you use chat GBT to create that riddle.

Chris Villanueva 2:39
We’re gonna talk about that for the second during this episode. But yes, AI is the robots are here to take over. And we don’t want to scare you all. But chat GBT. That’s a great idea then. And before we launch into three mistakes jobseekers are making today, I thought I’d have a fun opener with you. Since we are doing this live. You have this great career coaching business. I wanted to ask you, what is your favorite part about working with your career coaching clients? Or actually better yet? A better question is what is your client’s favorite part about working with you?

Benjamin Ritter 3:11
The gifts all the free gifts that I send gifts like gi F know like gifts like lotto tickets, new cars, vacations, no cigarettes? No, not real cigarettes, those bubblegum cigarettes. I’d say probably my clients favorite thing about working with me, honestly, was one time I got man, you give the best surprise gifts actually being pretty serious. Yeah, and not new cars. But I had a client that we worked together to get a TEDx talk for him. And so I sent him a red dot carpet, which is what they’d have to stand on during the TEDx talk. Another piece is also just the fact that I don’t judge. And I mean, it’s very rare to find someone that’s willing to have a conversation with you that wants the best for you. That also isn’t going to judge you for what you think and what you feel and what you do. And when it comes to getting clarity in your career and taking action towards that career that is going to be fulfilling for you. Ultimately, you might say some things that don’t really jive my direction, things that aren’t really aligned. And it’s good to have someone that’s always no matter what going to help you find the solution to where

Chris Villanueva 4:18
you’re at. That makes sense. I was talking with a mentor of mine who owns a resume writing company Funny enough, and he has owned it for decades. And one thing that he said, surprised me in a way he’s like, a lot of the things that I hear as a resume writer are things that like my clients can’t tell their co workers. They can’t talk to their boss about obviously because they’re working the job they want to get out of for instance, and sometimes they have a hard time telling like close family members or spouses. So like we’re the people I think that are given a lot of trust, especially as a career coach because you get more of like the personal stuff and helping people to find their way friends. Since but like, a lot of trust in you to take their information and like, give them valuable advice. Correct.

Benjamin Ritter 5:08
It has to be a trusted relationship. There’s no question to me even during our sales calls, I’ll say just so you know, anything you share with me is stays between us, no one knows we’re having this call. No one knows what we’re going, you know what we’re talking about what you’re going to say. And that level of safety, you can create that and actually follow up and follow through and create even greater trust through how you treat them and how you respond and how you manage the relationship. It’s absolutely priceless, which is why also the clients that I work with tend to continue working with me for a while, because it’s invaluable when you can find that. And if anyone’s listening, you don’t just have to find that in a coach, you can find that in a friend, right? If you have certain values that you’re assessing them for. And you have those expectations for certain relationships.

Chris Villanueva 6:02
So top three mistakes jobseekers are making today. And you texted me these earlier. But let’s hear number one, what’s one of the top mistakes that job seekers are currently making here today? It’s January 2023. But I want to hear it.

Benjamin Ritter 6:16
Yeah, not in any particular order. So just in general order. Top three things, I’d say the first one, and I get this a lot almost as an objection to starting a program, even honestly, with clients that invest in a program. Oh, I can’t do that. Until so it’s waiting for the right time. Waiting for the right time. You may even see this people get their resumes redone. And they haven’t done anything with it. They’re too nervous and afraid of something happening in their life or what might happen. When you really start talking to them. They’re like, yeah, it’s been the past two years. And it’s very much an excuse. Have you heard that before?

Chris Villanueva 7:00
We get it with people who just procrastinate like wanting to give us like have the phone consultation or like submit, you know, materials because like, oh, I need to get something in order. But like, I’m going to sympathize with them for a second. I believe everything. You’re saying I know that’s a top three mistake. But don’t you see the need for some people to get their ducks in a row rather than just start going for it? Or you think people need to start what ducks what ducks we talking about? Before I start applying for jobs? For instance, don’t I want to know what types of jobs I want to apply for at least have a good looking resume?

Benjamin Ritter 7:38
I think the waiting for the right time, what I’m really referring to is trying to get the next job and knowing that they’re already stuck, or waiting to figure out what their career might be. But instead they’re just staying and doing the same thing. So they’re putting no effort into actually trying to move forwards and making progress. So yeah, I would agree with you there in terms of its you don’t want to jump into the next job. You’re not sure what job you want to actually have. But why not apply for some jobs? Yeah, why not start talking to people and tell them that you’re looking? Yeah, you know, that are outside of your current company.

Chris Villanueva 8:19
Yeah, I sided with you. And like I love playing like the other side of the coin just to like to flesh it out a little bit more, but I am a recovering and I put this down. I’m a recovering perfectionist. So for me, this is refreshing one for me to see because I was that person in a sense, I still do you wait to move things forward when I know I should. But sometimes just getting some sort of momentum I would totally agree is like the best thing you can do. You can always read tweak things. And like, if you’re, for instance applying to like the wrong kinds of jobs, like maybe you’ll learn something from just at least getting started that you can move on to

Benjamin Ritter 8:54
an interviewing no learn something from interviewing or reaching out on LinkedIn to start having conversations you’ll learn something from those conversations, looking at your resume and trying to build that and put together your previous experiences you learned that you’re really bad at creating a resume need to hire let’s see grandma to help you like it. When I say waiting for the right time it’s I have to wait until this quarter is done I have to wait to this projects don’t make sense to wait until we move into this house. Like a perfect there is never going to be a perfect time. I’ve haven’t been at this job long enough. You know, it’s the only thing that I would ever say that is something to wait for is probably a payout from an equity you know or bonus or something like that because that’s the financial concern. It doesn’t mean that you can’t get all your materials ready it doesn’t mean that you can’t start having conversations doesn’t mean you can interview and get a job because you can push that off for six months into your start date. So actually take that back you can always start

Chris Villanueva 9:48
like I like it what are I mean you mentioned some like towards the beginning of this but like what are some excuses people give themselves to like not start like I like the like what Wait till the quarter sometimes people like to match things up with a calendar. But why else will people essentially procrastinate taking the next step forward in the job search?

Benjamin Ritter 10:08
Let’s go one on one. So I’ll say one and you say one and I’ll say one. Okay, we’ll see who can keep going.

Chris Villanueva 10:14
I’m gonna give the resume side but okay.

Benjamin Ritter 10:17
We’ll just toss them out. There’s no right or wrong answer. Okay, so, we’re looking to buy a house.

Chris Villanueva 10:21
Okay, I’ll hammer it home with again, I want to change careers, but I don’t know what that is.

Unknown Speaker 10:28
Okay, we’re gonna have a baby. Okay,

Chris Villanueva 10:31
I would say, I don’t have time to do this right now I have a lot going on a lot. My play with my job.

Benjamin Ritter 10:38
I’m just really like that. I was gonna say I’m really tired that goes along with it. Okay, I’m gonna, yeah, anything concerning something of a larger purchase, and I’m kind of playing off of the house. But I was gonna say like, I’m going to buy a new car or I’m going to go on vacation or so I’m just going to just use that what but when

Chris Villanueva 10:54
she’s often are those because I hear this hesitations when I’m speaking with prospective clients like are so is that with people who are looking to engage with a provider like us, like a career coach? Or why would somebody are

Benjamin Ritter 11:05
not ready to look for a new position because they have a large expenditure, so they’re worried about their finances? Okay, concern.

Chris Villanueva 11:12
So what’s the theme here? What are we telling people? Right? There’s more though, there’s more. I just had a beard. I’m kind of kind of tipsy right now. I can’t do that. That’s what they would say.

Benjamin Ritter 11:22
I’ll say. So this isn’t going to work for me. I need to get this certification versus working with someone. Yeah, literally had a shoo in at Amazon and dream job, Amazon. We’re working together, we’re gonna go get it. We networked put everything together. And the exact excuse was, and I say is an excuse, because we worked through it. Oh, I need to go study AWS, what do you do we get certified?

Chris Villanueva 11:46
Why? For that one to told you that? Yeah, a lot of the concern like I’ll play back to is like, people are looking at these job postings. And they’re seeing like these requirements that are being posted, like you need this certification that certification, this much experience. And so I think that’s often stop reading

Benjamin Ritter 12:03
job descriptions. Okay, just stop reading job, you can read the title of the role and how much money they want to pay you to apply for, for the job. After that. Make sure your resume aligns with it to go work with the resume writer. And make sure your LinkedIn lines, again, work with let’s see grandma. And I’m sorry, I just have to keep saying I guess you guys are awesome. But yeah, don’t read it. Because the only thing that’s gonna happen is you’re gonna get discouraged. Like, get excited about the title, get excited about the industry, get excited about the salary, and then go learn about the job in an interview. I mean, applying for a job to is such a minimal success rate in terms of the job application process, apply, and then go look at people that work at the company and set up some connection goals. I

Chris Villanueva 12:41
feel like we’re just getting heated up here. This is good. So what will you tell before we move on to Top Mistake Number two, what are you going to tell these people who are just waiting for the perfect time, whatever, great excuse, and we’ve listed out a bunch of them right now that are all pretty good excuses. What would you tell those people today?

Benjamin Ritter 13:00
And we went into number two before we go into number two, so like last pieces of advice for number one? Do we have the time for it? Do we got time? I think we started yet. Are we still recording? Yeah, we

Chris Villanueva 13:11
hit record. Okay, wait, so

Benjamin Ritter 13:12
we’re already going? In, we’ve taken action.

Chris Villanueva 13:15
We hit we hit action,

Unknown Speaker 13:17
then. Okay. So I guess I would say to take action. Yeah, I like

Chris Villanueva 13:23
it. Listeners, you heard that from us. You don’t need permission from us. But maybe you need the kick in the pants. Take action today. Stop making excuses. It’s a Top Mistake. And Ben has worked with a lot of clients. We’ve worked a lot of clients, we’ve heard this as a top mistake. And it really is tough for people. So move forward. It’s time and the time is right now. Stop procrastinating. I’ve been what’s the second mistake that job seekers are making these days? The second biggest mistake,

Benjamin Ritter 13:53
okay, that feeds from the first one because of I’ve heard this pretty often tried before, and it didn’t work. I’m just not ready. It was too defeating. failure was too much of a wait. It was too stressful. Number two, I guess no, a B. So because it’s not in any order. Mistake on an order not an order disclaimer is getting discouraged is allowing your success quote unquote, which means maybe getting a job that is fulfilling, dictate your level of investment in the energy and toward like towards that goal.

Chris Villanueva 14:28
Okay. So being discouraged. This is one I can really relate to. Mine has to get personal with a few stories here and there. But I can speak to firsthand how, how much that can slow down your progress. And especially when you really want something and you’re being ambitious or even if it’s on the subconscious level. You may not feel like you want something but you do. But why are people getting discouraged? I really want to get down to the root of this, like you said that that people aren’t moving forward for whatever reason, and they just don’t want to Spend the time but like, why are people getting discouraged, specifically job seekers?

Benjamin Ritter 15:03
A few different reasons. But mainly because our expectations of the job search are pretty off. Okay, as well as our reflection of success is on getting a goal instead of actually the steps towards or getting a job towards that towards the job itself. So for example, you know, working with a client, and we’re talking about networking, and it was something really new for them. All they had to do was send out some connection requests on LinkedIn. And we were reviewing their progress from the week worked really great. And then the next week, they said it didn’t work wasn’t great. Yeah. And the first week, it was like, Okay, how many connection requests did he send out? Five, to respond. Okay, next week. 10. Only one responded,

Chris Villanueva 15:50
I get it. Like, I get why. But like, when you say it out loud, it sounds so ridiculous. Because like, how can you possibly get the results? If you’re not putting in? Like, if that’s the kind of volume that you’re dealing with? As a job seeker?

Benjamin Ritter 16:03
I have almost 30,000 connections on LinkedIn. And by the way, Clinton over the past couple years instituted a limit on the amount of connections you could send, they did not always have that is why I ended up getting as high as I did. It’s

Chris Villanueva 16:17
the limit right now for to connect. I just don’t even know the answer to this. I’m nowhere near that

Benjamin Ritter 16:21
about 100 or 150 actions a week, I think it’s about 100 connections. And so you can max out pretty quickly don’t quote me on

Chris Villanueva 16:29
that. There’s no like cap, it’s just how much you can send out per like time period.

Benjamin Ritter 16:34
And then it’s like, hey, well, you can have a total of 30,000 connections, but unlimited amount of followers. Okay, was it 30,000? I think it’s 30,000. Connections. Again, don’t quote me on this. I’m a LinkedIn branding expert, not a LinkedIn numbers expert. But I only got to that number because I would spend hours and hours a day connecting with people because I needed to get people to take my survey for my dissertation. And now I do it for business, right for outreach. And just It’s so disappointing when I think about it doesn’t matter how many people say yes? Or doesn’t matter how many people say, No, it matters that you take the action to reach out to them. And eventually you’re going to find the people that matter. And the same thing with applying for a job. Doesn’t matter how many jobs you apply for. You’re only looking for one. Yeah. What’s the success rate for blanket applying for jobs and like a job board with an optimized resume cover letter and such? It depends,

Chris Villanueva 17:26
I would say it probably depends on how you apply. But I’ve seen figures to where it’s like just a general blanket approach to like 2%, just it’s very low. But I’ve also seen higher figures when it’s like, you know, the person it’s like a warm introduction. So you’ll, you’ll have like informational interview requests, like at higher figures, and people tell like over 50% But I think that’s that might be high in some cases, but super low.

Benjamin Ritter 17:51
Yeah. And I get it, how it can become discouraging, but the only guaranteed way of not achieving your next job is to not do anything towards it is to stop. And also if you go into interviews, discouraged, the negative, because I don’t know if you’ve heard these stories, but the recruiter have ghosted me, or I spent six interviews in this company, and they won’t even tell me like, Why didn’t get the job. People have these experiences. And it can be very easy to get angry, very easy to blame people to think the process is broken in some way. But man, if you give in,

Unknown Speaker 18:34
then you for sure lost?

Chris Villanueva 18:35
Yeah. One thing that I would echo that you said maybe we can offer some more elaboration on this is like you’re applying to a bunch of jobs. And it almost like doesn’t matter how many rejections you got, because you only need one job at the end of the day. And like me, on the other hand, it’s like I need clients like for my business to survive and thrive. It’s like, I need a certain amount of volume. So it’s like, you know, marketing, sales kind of stuff like that. But for jobs, I know it’s different. But it’s like, you just need one at the end of the day. So it’s like your rate almost doesn’t matter in terms of rejections. Just like getting there, at the very end of the day

Benjamin Ritter 19:08
will you know, in terms of clients, the number of outreach messages or views on your site that you need to close somebody, you can do the same thing for applications, you can figure out the number of applications you need to send out to get an interview. Yeah. And so now instead of out they’ve all said no, you now know how many applications you send out. You’re counting the noes to get to the Yes. If one more person, when I asked how the job searches going goes, all I’m getting are these rejection emails and it’s like, you know, at least they emailed me to tell me no, it’s like I’m covering my face. Because it rejection emails like picking up a flyer off a street corner. It’s meaningless. Yes. Okay. And it’s an automated system. Some companies have them some companies don’t. Who gives about them, you know, yeah, focus instead. Okay, I’m gonna call

Chris Villanueva 20:01
let me let me let me empathize with the jobs. I’ve tried to do this in this podcast in which possible but I’m just being angry today. No, I’m angry to man with being greedy together, we’re got this beautiful view here in Austin, Texas, I wish all you listeners, I’m not really angry bringing a horse I was in this is going to make sense because I hear this comparison all the time. But dating so I was on a dating app a few years ago, swiping constantly. And I will tell you, that just the non responses you get, especially as a male, because it can be really tough sometimes, but like the constant non responses, even when you put out like your best face some times, it can be discouraging. So you’re feeling like, What the heck is like wrong. And so it’s like, not on a conscious level, but like, I start to slow down. It’s like, I’m gonna waste my time with this crap. You know, I have so many other things to do right now. Or maybe I’ll wait for the perfect time going back to your first mistake that people are making. But like, I get it from that point to where it’s just like, bro, I’m wasting so much time just like putting in the effort here. And it’s discouraging. So you whether on purpose or not do start to slow down. So like how do I flip it around and then pick up momentum because it actually does have a positive story because I did meet my current future almost spouse on a dating app. So I kept going people, just so you know, for the record as we’re doing this. But it was discouraging at like so many points. And like it was very like much of like me slowing down and like it took like a long time. So like, how do you give the kick in the pants to people listening right now who are applying for jobs, getting rejections and you know, they’re not building any momentum. So what

Unknown Speaker 21:37
caused you not to give up on the dating app? Just desire,

Chris Villanueva 21:41
strong desire?

Benjamin Ritter 21:46
What didn’t make any changes? As you’re using it and not getting the results you want?

Chris Villanueva 21:51
Yeah, I would say it was like getting some frickin good pictures, right didn’t look like crap. So and that helped. I know it did

Benjamin Ritter 21:58
maybe a bio line, maybe changing the messages that you used, maybe reducing the amount of time that you spent on the app, and instead asking for a meet up or phone call right away. Maybe portioning off the time that you’re spending on the app to certain parts of the day where you weren’t really doing anything and could just kind of like do it kind of mindlessly because you just kept swiping until maybe someone said yes. And then you invested the energy. There are adjustments that we make, especially in dating, we forget that we can make the same adjustments in our career, and you kept going because you really wanted it you committed to it, you might have adjusted how much time you invest in energy, you invested to make sure that you could stay positive and motivated because the worst thing you could do is have someone accept and be like, Why didn’t anyone else respond to me? I hate you. And all women like because people do that thing, they get discouraged during the job search and they’re like, you know, I’m gonna go in these interviews. And you know, I’m not even gonna care. And it’s like, because

Chris Villanueva 22:53
you’re so burnt, the attitude comes off, like you can tell.

Benjamin Ritter 22:57
And so with the job search, like getting technical first second, you know, you have about a 2% success rate. So, and just applying to jobs, so not all of your energy and time should be spent applying to jobs on the job board. Now, if 100% of your applications are coming back with no interviews, then your stuffs wrong, go get it fixed. Go hire someone that professional need to fix it. When I say your stuff, your cover letter, your resume your LinkedIn profile. Now only 40% of new hires come from job boards. And by the way, 2% success rate. So do that math there for a second, I can’t do it. Maybe you can’t 60% about 70% comes from actually recruiters warm introductions, cold outreach, it basically informational interviews where someone’s like, you know, we could use you. And so other percentage of your time should be spent going with the data and having those informational interviews, like you mentioned, and into your network. And so like, let’s just play the numbers and see it as I have a goal. I’m going to work towards that goal. I’m going to do things that I think are going to work and if they stop working, I’m going to do something else instead of Oh, woe is me. I’m a victim. Yeah, I can’t get a job. I’m not good enough. I promise you, you’re good enough. If you keep going, you’ll get a job and it’s not working. You can hire someone to help you get that job. Yeah, it’s like hope. Yeah. And the jobs are just so important.

Chris Villanueva 24:16
And going back to it what I will, okay, good word that just that triggered something in me. Because it’s part of our something we really care about, like Lindsey Graham was like, hope, like driving the job search forward. But like, what gave me hope in order to want to keep moving forward is like doing those re strategizing things, because I was like, Oh my gosh, well, Phil, shit, my pictures are a lot better now. So therefore, it gives me hope, because I know that I’ll probably improve my odds, or I’m going to switch up the strategy because what I was doing before was is a trash strategy. So I think that makes a lot of sense is finding hope within switching things up. If you’re not getting the results and just keep moving forward.

Benjamin Ritter 24:56
It’s going to work out that I have to figure out How’d that is going to work out? It’s like this optimistic realism, where I believe in myself. And I believe in the process, because people get new jobs. But I also understand the percentage of how this works. And the payoff is unreal. I mean, you’re getting married another individual, when they get their new job, that could be where they spend the rest of their career. That could be the key to financial security and wealth, that could be the key to them meeting their future. Partner. Yeah, because a large percentage of relationships tend to happen in the workplace, or in close proximity of the workplace.

Chris Villanueva 25:42
Or it’s like, oh, my gosh, I have a company that respects me more. And I actually am able to live the lifestyle I want. I know a lot of people are really, it’s still a thing. We’re 2023. But like, pushing to work remote, I know, like, huge concern a lot of people’s minds. And so it’s like, you can’t get that dream job, that dream lifestyle. It’s just like you got to keep pushing through. So last, as we round out this tip before moving on to the third and final tip, drive at home, what would you tell me if I’m feeling like crap in maybe subconsciously, or consciously I’ve slowed down my job search. And I don’t want to put more time into this.

Benjamin Ritter 26:16
Feel like I’ve been driving a lot lately. So I’m gonna give you the wheel here for a second.

Chris Villanueva 26:19
Then I asked you here who’s interviewing who? You know what I’m saying? Yeah, true.

Benjamin Ritter 26:22
We’re just gonna dive in. Okay, listen up everybody, the only person that’s going to believe in yourself throughout this job search the entire time, or at least the person that can believe in yourself the most, that can help motivate you and support you throughout this process. It’s not a coach, it’s not your family or your friends. It is yourself. And if you don’t believe in yourself, the person across the table from you or across the Zoom screen during an interview for sure isn’t. So if you really want the payoff of a new job, if you really want that payoff, then you got to believe that it can happen.

Chris Villanueva 26:59
Yeah. And just don’t slow down, keep up the momentum. Even when you feel like you’re not getting any sort of interviews, or you just got ghosted, I know, it’s like easier said than done. Like a lot of people, it’s hard to physically do, but like, you just got to keep going. And even if it’s like a little thing you’re doing to keep moving forward. Just keep going.

Benjamin Ritter 27:19
I love how it’s like, take action and keep going. So this third tip that I have some

Chris Villanueva 27:24
substance, so most people need to hear like the voice. It’s like, we can post this crap on LinkedIn. And then people would see it. And they’d be like, Oh, that’s, you know, I’ve heard that before a million times. But like, I think to actually hear us like our audio and like our voices, I think, hopefully, somebody needed to hear that message. And it’s like, dang, like, I need to keep going. There’s a reason

Benjamin Ritter 27:42
why these these came up. For me, I lead a lot of free workshops online. And so if you ever want to attend an event, come check them out. They’re a lot of fun. One of the main things that people say after they attended is I needed that I have not been seeing my career as something that is an opportunity as something that is a positive chapter in my life, I’ve become really discouraged with the experiences, I’ve added other employers and other jobs. I think work is tedious and negative and terrible. And that doesn’t have to be the case. And so the reason why these two tips are to drive you forwards to believe that you can actually have a career that is fulfilling and empowering. And it’s out there. If you’re not there right now, you can’t even think about fixing where you’re at, you’re ready for that next step. You got to go after it. And you got to keep going because it is possible. I’m telling you that it is there people that you probably know where it is. And I think I have a partner in crime right here that also say that it is

Chris Villanueva 28:42
Ben, let’s hear number three in our list today, the year 2023. What is mistake number three that job seekers are making today?

Benjamin Ritter 28:54
Can I get you to share this one? Can

Chris Villanueva 28:55
I know? Yeah, you’re right. You’re okay. It’s my turn. Now. It’s my turn. Give me a break here. Ignoring LinkedIn, cut to the chase. People are ignoring LinkedIn. And it’s something we’ve preached on this podcast for years. Now. We’re like, oh, LinkedIn is up and coming. Well, it’s not stopping anytime soon. Seen the stats, as of November 2022, LinkedIn has had 875 plus million members. With 58 million companies listed. The numbers are insane, and they keep growing higher. It’s no wonder why recruiters are finding people on LinkedIn. And just for the record, we’re never NOT an affiliate for LinkedIn, have been saying that name a million times. And we don’t get paid to say this. But like their growth and revenue and their growth as a company is insane. So it’s something that people should pay attention to. And I can’t tell you how many times that I’ve been told and maybe you’ve heard a similar thing, but I don’t even have a LinkedIn profile right now. Or I just put my picture up in a few things or I haven’t updated or touched my LinkedIn in such a long time. So have you seen a similar thing of people? I mean, obviously, you’ve gave me this one. To put them a list here, but

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